I’m trying to bring theatre back to the city! Back in January Sam Rolfes and I directed a huge one-night-only musical show called Diskokina, and I’m currently developing the Club Cringe showcase for festivals. As a result, theatre is seeping into everything else I’m doing right now. I’ve been spending a bunch of time in the Theatre archives up on 64th st, where you can watch the city’s archive of musicals and plays dating back over 50 years - but the catch is you can only view each production once in your lifetime. It’s so depressing that the only shows we see talked about online is shit like Hamilton. Plays used to be such a big part of New York’s cultural export and it feels like it’s kind of been handed off to the tourists. I think performers in general play it very safe and calculated these days, which is why I’m drawn to musicians who get up there and present a whole idea in their live shows. Frost Children and Club Eat come to mind immediately. It’s vulnerable and cringe to get up on stage and start sharing things that used to be just in your notes app, to a whole room full of people. I guess that’s where the name Club Cringe comes from. It’s more about the risk of performing something big and high concept and being okay with potentially seeing it flop or be ill-recieved, “coming off cringe” than it is about the work actually being intentionally cringey.